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These suggestions are made with the fullest, faith in those who now perform their duties in the Hospital Department.

Respectfully yours,


Well, now, this cry for more nurses which Dr. McLaugblin and Dr. Harkins made, both publicly and privately, to you, was just in accord with what Mrs. Lincoln afterwards urged, wasn't it?

A. I think; so yes.
Q. Yes.
A. I think so.

Q. So that Mrs. Lincoln in urging this improvement in the hospital was simply corroborating and reënforcing the appeals which were made to you and to the Commissioners and to the city authorities, whoever they might be, which the eminent physicians who bad bad charge of those institutions at first originated. That is true, is it pot?

A. Did Dr. Harkins have any motive for that but for the benefit of the inmates?

Q. Well, 10, I suppose pot, from the high recommendation which you gave him a few moments ago ?

A. I gave him a high recommendation, and I know him thoroughly.

Mr. REED. What is the date of that?
Mr. BRANDEIS. September 30, 1891.

The WITNESS. At that time Dr. Harkins was trying to get to be superintendant at Long Island, and that was his motive for calling attention to these things.

Q. (By Mr. BRANDEIS.) Oh, that is it.

A. There is, I guess, as many as thirty-seven officers now on Long Island. When I had both islands I bad about tweuty; and I don't believe there were as many complaints then as there are to-day, and that the inmates were as well taken care of thep as they are now.

Q. That inay be due to the lack of efficiency of the present superintendent as compared with bis predecessor?

A. I don't throw any blame on him, sir, not at all.

Q. But you admit, Mr. Galvin, that although Dr. Harkins never became superintendent of Long Island, these various recommendations which he and afterwards Mrs. Lincoln made were adopted by the Commissioners ?

A. Dr. Harkins, I think, had as much help as he needed there by the inmates. That is my impression, and I put the question to bim frequently.

Q. Well, but now we are talking about a case where Dr. Harkins was not superintendent, because Dr. Harkins was not superintendent at Long Island and Dr. Cogswell was, and these various recommendations which Mrs. Lincoln, echoing Dr. McLaughlin and Dr. Harkins, made, seem to have been adopted by the Commission ?

4. So it appears, yes, sir; so it appears.

2. An apparently the Commissioners agreed with Mrs. Lincoln and Dr. McLaughlin and Dr Harkins ?

A. Very likely ; yes, sir.

Q. So you would not impute any lack of judgment to Mrs. Lincoln in following the lead of your physicians in askiug for these things?

A. Not at all. I never found fault with Mrs. Lincoln's judgment, at all, sir.

Q. Now, Dr. Harkios asked for other things, didn't le for instance, for an apothecary, so that medicines miglit be put up by some one who was skilled in the art?

1. He had one.
Q. He asked for one first and he got one, didn't he?
A. Yes, be vid, sir.

Q. Yes. And so in that respect the complaints or the requests for improvement, liowever you care 10 name them, were heeded?

A. Yes.

Q. Well, there were other things that Mrs. Lincoln asked for that were granted, weren't they, by the Commissioner?

A. Probably there were ; yes.

Q. Yes. Mrs. Lincoln called attention to the crying need of a separate room for the dying, didu’t she?

A. That is correct; yes, sir.
Q. She was the first person to call attention to that?
A. I think she was; yes, sir.

Q. And tbe Commissioners thought well of her recommendation, didn't they.

A. Yes; it was granted, wasn't it?
Q. So she did some good there, didn't she?
Q. Yes; it was granted, sir.
Q. I mean she did some good, didn't she?
d. Probably she did in that respect.

Q. Well, Mrs. Lincoln also called attention to the importance of benches outside on which the inmates could sit down and take some fresh air, and that request was granted, wasn't it? The Commissioners thought well of it and recommended it, didn't they ? Mrs. Lincoln also urged that there be screens to protect the women when they were bathing from the general view. That recommendation, also, was acted upon, wasn't it?

A. There were screens there without a recommendation, before she recommended it.

Q. There were ?
A. Yes, sir.

Q. There were some new ones, however, after she recommended it?

A. Oh, there were more screens after that, but they were there before that.

Q. Then Mrs. Lincoln also recommended that there should be some more comfortable chairs ?

A. Yes; and she procured thein.

Q. Yes, and afterwards the Commissioners followed her kind example and procured some at Long Island, of the same kind ?

A. I don't know whether she did or not.
Q. At all events, she did get some there, didn't she? Well,


you spoke of a drum for the vermin having been procured for the
hospital, didn't you?

A. When, last night?
Q. You spoke of it last night, yes.
A. I don't recollect of it.
Q. A drum for destroying vermin — you remember that?
A. Last night?
Q. Well, yesterday.
A. I don't recollect it.
Q. Well, but it was procured, wasn't it?

was procured, wasu't it? There was a drum for the vermin on each island procured?

A. Yes, sir.

Q. And that was procured after Mrs. Lincoln called attention to the necessity for it?

A. I don't know as it was done through ber calling for it.
Q. Well, it was done after she called for it?
A. It was done.

Q. She called attention to it, didn't she? So far as you know she was the first that called attention to that necessity ?

A. I don't think so.
Q. Who called attention to it before
A. No matter. I don't think she was the first,

Q. Well, even if she wasn't the first, evidently the previous call for attention to the subject was not successful in eliciting that article ?

A. The drums were received and put in order.
Q. Received after she called attention to it?
A. Not before, no.

Q. Yes, that is it. Well, the need of an ambulance was also called to their attention, wasn't it, by Mrs. Lincoln ?

4. It was called by somebody.
Q. Yes, and that was afterwards procured, wasn't it?
A. It was, yes.

Q. And the advantage of baving a watch clock, an electric clock by which it could be determined whether the night watch had been properly kept; that was also called to the attention?

A. That was called and it was supplied.

Q. Yes, there was another instance. These things were not called attention to by you?

A. No, sir; not by any means.
Q. Only by Mrs. Lincoln ?
A. And I don't want the credit of it, either.
Q. But they were all improvements, weren't they?
A. I suppose so.

Q. So you admit that Mrs. Lincoln has contributed somewhat to the amelioration of the condition of the inmates of those institutions ?

A. Oh, I won't say much on that subject.

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Long Island ?

About six weeks, wasn't it a month or six weeks?

A. About that; yes, sir.

Q. He came there about a month or six weeks before you left the island ?

A. Yes, sir.

Q. Then your entire experience with him as deputy was only about that time?

A. That is all, sir.
Q. A month or six weeks?
A. That was all.

Q. And Dr. Parker was not the physician at Long Island while you were superintendent of both islands, was he?

A. No, sir, he was not.
Q. He came there after you went to Rainsford Island ?
A. Yes, sir.

Q. And what acquaintance you have had with Dr. Parker has been since you have been superintendent of Rainsford

Rainsford Island alone ?

A. That was it, sir.
Q. I suppose he frequently comes over to your island ?
A. Frequently comes there to relieve the other doctor.

Q. Frequently comes there to relieve Dr. Dever when Dr. Dever goes away?

A. Yes, sir.

Q. And it is through that contact with bim that you have become acquainted with him?

A. Yes, sir; nothing else.
Q. So you never served on Long Island with him?
d. No, sir; never did.

Q. And McCaffrey served with you about a month or six weeks ?

A. Yes, sir.

Q. Now, of course, you don't claim for anybody else that the Rainsford Island Hospital was anything like the new hospital now in use on Long Island ?

A. No, sir, I do not.

Q. But wbat you testified to here before was this, was it not, that for a summer hospital for children, when the doors could be opened, in the summer-time, that building was a good building?

A. It was good for that purpose ; yes, sir.

Q. Apd was very satisfactory to the doctors in charge for the purpose ?

Á. And the sisters --- perfectly satisfactory; yes, sir.

Q. You made no reference to the condition of the hospital previous to that time, and you didn't claim that it was an ideal hospital?

A. Not at all, sir; not by any means, not at all.

Q. And you knew that the hospital wasn't satisfactory, and that the Commissioners bad repeatedly asked for money to build a new hospital?

A. Yes, sir; I was well aware of that.

Q. You have spoken of a fire-escape op Rainsford Island ?
A. Yes.

Q. Yes, or rather Mr. Brandeis has. I assume that you refer to the fire-escape which has recently been built at the end of the wooden building called the White House?

A. Yes, sir

Q. Now, that is the only fire-escape that has been built there recently, is it not?

A. Yes, sir, that is the only one.

Q. And that consists of a plank stairway on the outside of the building, does it not?

it. That is it, sir.
Q. And it is only a few steps in height, is it not?
A. Probably about ten, I think.
Q. Not more than ten?
A. Not more than ten ; no, sir.
Q. And it is on the end of the building it sits on the hill?
A. Yes, sir.
Q. The old white house?
A. Yes, sir.
Q. What you called the Old White House?
A. Yes, sir.

Q. And one end of that white bouse touches the sloping ground in front of your residence?

A. Yes, sir.

Q. There a few wooden steps have been built so that the old ladies can get out frora the second story?

A. That is it.
Q. And that is all the fire-escape?
A. All that has been built there.
Q. And that was all the Fire Commissioners recommended ?
A. That is all, sir.

Q. And you have done exactly what the Fire Commissioners recommended ?

A. Yes, sir.

Q. Mr. Branıleis has called your attention to a communication froni Mr. Harkins, in 1891. Now, that is the same communication which Dr. Harkins submitted to you and which you transmitted to the Commissioners of Public Institutions with your disapproval, and which was referred to Dr. Newell, by the Board, is it not?

A. Yes, sir; that is correct.

Q. So that as far as you were concerned you performed your duty in regard to that communication?

A. Yes, sir ; I consider so.
Q. And you transmitted it to the proper authorities?
A. Yes, sir.

Q. And what action they have taken upon that has guided you since. Now, Mr. Brandeis asked you about the farm. I want to ask you a question about the farm. In 1889 you give some results frora the operation of that farm, and I want to ask you if this is a correct statement which appears in your report of the amount of crops raised on Long Island?

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