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Q. Did he take meals there?

A. No, sir, never; I don't give meals

Q. What room did he take?

A. Room 10, the first time.

Q. Where is that?

A. Up two flights, in the rear.

Q. Was it a large room?

A. About fifteen feet square.

Q. Furnished, of course?

A. Yes, sir.

Q. What kind of a portmanteau was this?

A. Rather a small leather bag. Rather small for a common bag.

Q. Well, sir, that isn't very definite.

A. Then, according to my best judgment, the dimensions might be perhaps ten inches in width, and in height eight to ten inches.

Q. Not large enough to carry clothing in?

A. It might be large enough to carry a night-dress and a pair of socks, but not an extensive wardrobe.

Q. Wouldn't do to put a clean shirt in?

A. Well, hardly; the bag remained there in the room at least six months.
Q. In that room?

A. Yes, sir; in a closet to the room.

Q. Meanwhile the room was occupied by other people?

A. The closet was locked, and the room was occupied by different parties, as occasion required.

Q. Who had the key?

A. The key was in the office.

Q. Did he pay anything for the use of that closet during that time?

A. Not to my knowledge.

Q. Was there anything in the closet besides the portmanteau?

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Q. Now, I wish you would tell me just what he said when he came there on the 30th of April, 1875. What time did he come?

A. It was in the evening.

Q. What time in the evening?

A. I should say it must be 11 o'clock at night.

Q. (By the CHAIRMAN.) What night do you refer to?

A. The 30th of April, 1875.

Q. (By Mr. MAY.) You say about 11 o'clock?

A. Yes, sir. He retired immediately, and therefore I infer that it was about

11 o'clock.

Q. Did he go to the same room as the year before?

A. No, sir. I have two houses used in connection, and the room he occcupied in 1875 was in No. 7 Hayward place.

Q. Then he had another room;

A. Yes, sir.

Q. In what part of the house?

A. Up one flight, back.

Q. How large a room?

A. Now, I beg your pardon. He came in the entrance to No. 7, and passed through to No. 8 and occupied room 7, which is directly under the room occupied the year before. Both are of the same size.

Q. Where was the portmanteau?

A. I have lost track of that portmanteau.

Q. Didn't see it that night?

A. No, sir.

Q. Have you seen it since?

A. No, sir.

Q. Did he have any luggage with him?

A. No, sir.

Q. No baggage of any kind?

A. No, sir.

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A. Yes, sir.

Q. And you say he has never been there to lodge since the 30th day of April?

A. Not since the 30th day of April.

Q. Did he have any furniture there of any kind?

A. No, sir.

Q. Did he have any letters left there?

A. Yes, sir. In 1874, during the first six months, there was a great many communications left there-books, pamphlets and letters from City Hall. Q. How was it after that?

A. I couldn't say that anything has been brought there for Mr. Shaw in 1875, with the exception of this year's tax-bill.

Q. The post-office carriers come there?

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Q. Nothing left in 1875 for him; since what time in 1874.

A. Couldn't say about 1874; might have been something any time in 1874.

Q. But since 1875 nothing was left by the city officials or carriers?

A. I think not, sir, with the exception of the tax-bill.

Q. I wish you would try to recall the language exactly, if you can, that passed between you and him on the 30th day of April, 1875, when he came there, as you say he did, at 11 o'clock at night.

A. Well, sir, as I stated before, Mr. Shaw said he intended to, says he, "I want to make my residence here. I still want to retain my residence in Ward 5." That is the effect of it. It would be impossible to give the precise language. He signified his intention of making his residence there.

Q. I want you to state what he said.

A. That is an inference of mine.

Q. I don't want any inferences.

A. I am stating distinctly what Mr. Shaw said to me.
Q. Why won't you repeat that?

A. And if my inference

Q. I don't want your inferences. I want what he said.

A. Mr. Shaw told me in the evening of the 30th day of April, in the year of our Lord one thousand eight hundred and seventy-five, that he wished to make his residence at my house, Nos. 7 and 8 Hayward place, and he says: "You understand, Mr. Atwood, that I want it understood that my residence is here."

Q. He says that "You understand that I want it understood that my residence is here"?

A. Yes, sir.

Q. Did he say why?

A. No, sir.

Q. And from that day afterward you didn't see him?

A. I have occasionally met him, but he hasn't been to my house to my knowledge.

Q. I suppose you have quite a number of lodging-rooms there?

A. We have twenty-one rooms to let, besides those occupied by my family.

Q. This is one of your ordinary lodging-rooms?

A. There is nothing very ordinary in the room. It is a good room. It compares better with the rest of them.

Q. I don't mean ordinary in a common sense; you intimate that it is well furnished?

A. I should be glad to have you call up and see it.

Q. I should be glad to. Please describe it.

A. The carpet is a blue ingrain carpet; it has a mantel-piece of antique proportions, as most of those houses built in 1821, in Hayward place, had. It was

built by a young man by the name of Adams, an apprentice on this building at that time. The furniture consists of a black walnut massive bedstead.

The CHAIRMAN. — I would ask what the architecture of the building has to do with this case?

WITNESS.

Mr. MAY.

I am giving a description of the furniture.

I asked him for it.

The CHAIRMAN. I don't see what bearing it has upon the case.

WITNESS. It has none at all. It is to satisfy the curiosity of the gentleman giving the interrogatory.

Q. (By Mr. MAY.) Have you given all the particulars in reference to the room?

A. No, sir. I can give a very elaborate description of that room, and shall be happy to do so.

Q. I should like to have you finish your description?

A. The bedstead is heavily carved, has a large set of castors under it, so it can be handled without injury to the carpet. It has an elegant black walnut bureau, with marble top to it, upon which is a mirror with shelves surrounding the mirror. Over the top of it is a wreath of roses and ferns elaborately carved. The plate has met with an accident by a gentleman who was not in favor of the prohibitory law. I was put to the expense of $5, and got $2.50 back.

Q. I didn't ask about what it costs now. Was the mirror cracked then? A. No, sir. Among the other convenencies of the room is one for having hot and cold water, of a style that is not familiar. The design is as follows: It has a base two and a half feet long, and about half that distance wide, and upon it sets a marble slab and bowl, and upon the top of the marble slab sets a cabinet which has two partitions, which are lined with galvanized iron for the purpose of raising up the lid, so as to have hot or cold water; silverplated faucets conduct the water to the basins, and it looks very much as if they were running hot and cold water to the room. There is a large centretable, with Italian top and legs heavily carved. The windows have plain white linen shades.

Q. You are speaking of what it was on the 30th of April, 1875?

A. I am speaking of what it is to-day, and was then, except by the natural

wear.

Q. I don't care about what it is now.

A. This is what it was at that time. It may have been a little defaced since then.

Q. Did you have permanent lodgers at that time?

A. I have very few permanent lodgers.

Q. Transient lodgers?

A. Yes, sir.

Q. Do their names appear npon the same register?

A. Yes, sir.

Q. Both sexes?

A. Yes, sir.

Q. Male and female?

A. Male and female.

Q. Will you bring us in that register to show who patronized your place at that time?

A. I will when I am ordered to do so by the proper authority.

Q. You are unwilling to bring it in, sir?

A. No, sir, by no means.

Q. We should like to see your register.
A. I should be happy to have you call.

Mr. MAY We shan't call.

Q. (By Mr. FITZGERALD.) Mr. Shaw paid you that evening?

A. Mr. Shaw paid me in the evening before retiring.

Q. He paid in advance?

A. Yes, sir. I

Q. And you considered that all the payment he would make until he came again?

A. Yes, sir.

Q. (By Mr. DEAN.) This conversation, in which Mr. Shaw states to you

that he wishes to have it understood distinctly that he intends to make this his residence, or desires to be so understood, took place; after that he retires and sleeps in your house?

A. Yes, sir.

Q. (By Mr. FITZGERALD.) Has he told you that he has given up that place as a residence there?

A. No, sir, he has not.

Q. (By Mr. MAY.) I want to ask one more question about the transient people of both sexes whether they have luggage as a general thing?

A. Well, sir, that is not pertinent to the case.

Mr. MAY. - That is all, sir.

Q. (By the CHAIRMAN.) I think you said you kept a register at the hotel? A. Yes, sir.

Q. Do you exact of every person that comes there to write his signature upon the register?

A. I do, sir.

Q. Both male and female?

A. No, sir; not females.

Q. But every gentleman who comes there registers?

A. Yes, sir. Sometimes two persons are registered, as Mr. Jones or Brown and lady.

Q. Suppose a lady comes alone?

A. She has her name registered. No person is allowed a room unless the name is registered.

Q. (By Mr. FITZGERALD.) It isn't the custom in that hotel for permanent lodgers to register every night?

A. There is more or less done in this business. There is more or less shystering in every business.

Q. (By the CHAIRMAN.) What is that. Please define that word [Laughter.]

A. I will give my explanation of it. I wish it to be understood that things are led to appear to be what they are not, that I am engaged in something that is not real, and pretending to be what I am not.

Q. Or seeming to be what is not.

A. Yes, sir.

Q. (By Mr. FITZGERALD.) You have two or three permanent lodgers. It isn't the custom to have them sign every evening. If Mr. Shaw considered himself a permanent lodger he wouldn't sign every evening?

A. We often bring those names forward, but it is not imperative. It is simply to make a good showing when business is light.

Q. And when persons are transient, they come and pay the next morning? A. They don't always pay up next morning. They pay when they take the

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Q. It is understood to be a hotel ?

A. Yes, sir, I am a licensed inn-holder.

Q. And as such, do you sell any ardent spirits there?

A. I don't know that I am under obligations to answer that question.

Q. You are not disposed to answer that question.

A. No, sir.

Q. You speak of shysters. Have you been so unfortunate in your hotel as to have that class there ?

A. It is not so much in regard to the hotel business that I have been led to infer, as to the legal profession.

The CHAIRMAN. That referred to our friends, Fitzgerald and Dean.
Q. (By Mr. FITZGERALD.) You didn't refer to me.

A. No, sir, not at all.

Mr. Fitzgerald hasn't been in the business hardly

long enough to get that name.

Q. (By the CHAIRMAN.) So you keep a hotel register of every person that comes ?

A. Yes, sir.

Q. (By Mr. DEAN.) I simply ask this question, because of questions asked you. I mean it in fairness to you, and I think it ought to be asked. I want to ask whether you endeavor to keep a respectable house, at which any gentleman or lady can call?

A. I do, sir, a highly respectable house.

Q. You have spoken of your wife giving information — whether she lives there with you?

A. Yes, sir, I have a wife and two children living there. The house is recommended by the Young Men's Christian Union, and by the Young Men's Christian Association. [Laughter and applause.]

Mr. DEAN. — I suppose that will suffice for me.

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The CHAIRMAN. [To the galleries.]

and I propose to have order kept here.

Gentlemen, this isn't a beer garden;

WITNESS. In justice to myself, Mr. Chairman, after this examination having taken the turn that it has, it strikes me that it is highly important that I have an opportunity to say a word relative to the Hayward House, that has been unfavorably called in question by a gentleman of the committee. Mr. MAY. - I only wanted to find out what it was.

WITNESS.—I want to take occasion to advertise that it is a hotel for gentlemen as well as ladies; and if a gentleman don't know how to come there with a lady and behave as a gentleman, he will not be admitted. Our register is open, and we keep it open for business, the same as Parker or Young's. I am happy to have this opportunity to advertise it.

D. F. CHASE.

Q. (By Mr. FrrZGERALD.) You are a brother-in-law of Mr. Atwood?

A. I am, sir.

Q. And you superintended at the Hayward House?

A. Yes, sir; I am about there.

Q. You remember the night Mr. Shaw came there?

A. I don't know positively the night, but very nearly.

Q. What was about the time?

A. It was the last week in April, 1874.

Q. When did you cease to be connected with the Hayward House?

A. Well, sir, I had a lease of it for one year before the first day of January, 1874, and had nothing to do with it since January, 1874.

Q. Not since 1874?

A. Nothing.

Q. Then you know nothing about what was done in 1875?

A. No, sir.

Q. (By Mr. DEAN.) Then so far as that year is concerned you corroborate the testimony of Mr. Atwood?

A. Yes, sir.

Q. (By Mr. FITZGERALD.) That Mr. Shaw was there how often?

A. That he was there sometimes once a week and sometimes less.

Q. And he paid his bill such time as he stopped there?

A. Yes, sir. He paid when he was a mind to. I never asked him for pay.

LINUS E. Pearson.

Q. (By Mr. FITZGERALD.) You are one of the Registrars of Voters?

A. I am, sir.

Q. You know Mr. Shaw?

A. I do.

Q. You see him frequently at your office?

A. I do.

Q. Have you got your records here, sir?

A. I have not. I was not instructed to bring them here. I didn't know they would be wanted.

Q. I think it was down in your summons. However, you can state. Have you looked over the register which you have in your office of the voters of Ward 5?

A. Yes, sir.

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