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Admiral HARRIS. The ground there is pretty low, and we have had a lot of trouble in the navy yard on account of the pipes losing heat. You can go in the vicinity of the Brooklyn Navy Yard after a snowstorm and trace out your steam pipes by reason of the melted snow, and that shows a large loss in coal and heat.

The CHAIRMAN. This is to scrap the old plant?

Dr. BRAISTED. This is to extend the old plant. Do you mean the heating plant?

The CHAIRMAN. Yes.

Dr. BRAISTED. No; that plant is inefficient, and it has been inefficient for years.

The CHAIRMAN. You intend to scrap it?

Dr. BRAISTED. Well, we would not throw those buildings away; we will probably use them for something, but they are a very poor type of building.

Admiral HARRIS. We intend to use the plant that is there.
The CHAIRMAN. For what purpose?

Admiral HARRIS. For that purpose.

The CHAIRMAN. And this $175,000 additional?
Admiral HARRIS. Yes, sir.

The CHAIRMAN. What is the next item?

LEAGUE ISLAND, PA,

Dr. BRAISTED. The next is League Island. There is no hospital at League Island now. This is to complete a temporary emergency hospital of 24 buildings, consisting of 5 pavilion wards, with toilets and washrooms, nurses' quarters, Hospital Corps barracks, civilian employees' quarters, quarters for medical staff, operating building, administration building, mess hall, kitchen, storehouse, garage, laundry building and laundry machinery, disinfecting building, including disinfectng apparatus, and heating plant. This is intended to have a capacity of 200 or 250 patients, and $150,000 is estimated.

The CHAIRMAN. What capacity have you there now?

Dr. BRAISTED. We have now the old naval hospital, 7 miles away, and we also have the medico-chirurgical hospital, with 100 beds, which we can use and are using now. There will be between five and ten thousand men at League Island yard, right near this little temporary hospital.

The CHAIRMAN. You have really not had any great demand on your hospital facilities because of an increased number of men?

Dr. BRAISTED. Oh, yes; we have; we are running a tremendous increase.

The CHAIRMAN. I read a statement that you issued a short time ago to the effect that there were only about 13 cases of sickness at the Great Lakes Training Station?

Dr. BRAISTED. There must have been some mistake about the statement. What I did say was that in the hospital there were only 12 or 13 cases that were seriously ill and which we thought were going to die. At that time there were over 600 patients in that hospital that had to be taken care of-measles, mumps, spinal meningitis, scarlet fever, and pneumonia. But the day I was there there were only 12 cases that we thought serious enough to make us think they might be fatal, and we thought that was a fine showing.

The CHAIRMAN. What is the next?

NORFOLK, VA.

Dr. BRAISTED. The next is Norfolk, Va., contracted for and about completed, 20 buildings, consisting of 14 pavilion wards, 4 Hospital Corps barracks, and 2 subsistence buildings, with a capacity of about 500 patients, making that about a 1,000-bed hospital.

The CHAIRMAN. How much is that?

Dr. BRAISTED. That is $200,000.

The CHAIRMAN. Is this at Norfolk?

Dr. BRAISTED. This is to be the Norfolk Naval Hospital in Portsmouth, Va.

The CHAIRMAN. What is the next?

CHARLESTON, S. C.

Dr. BRAISTED. The next is Charleston, S. C., with 10,000 men and no hospital of any kind. This is to provide for 24 buildings, consisting of five pavilion wards, with toilets and wash rooms, nurses' quarters, hospital corps barracks, civilian employees' barracks, quarters for medical staff, operating building, administration building, mess halls, kitchen building, storehouse, garage, laundry buildings and laundry equipment, disinfecting building and disinfecting apparatus, and heating plant, with a capacity of about 200 or 250 patients, at an estimated cost of $150,000.

Mr. GILLETT. Is that permanent construction?

Dr. BRAISTED. NO; this is all temporary construction, just as you saw there [indicating photographs].

Admiral HARRIS. Wooden buildings.

The CHAIRMAN. What is the next?

KEY WEST, FLA.

Dr. BRAISTED. The next is Key West, Fla. We have no hospital whatever there, and we are endeavoring to get a hospital there by erecting one of these temporary hospitals or buying something, if we can. I have spent a good deal of time on this, and we can buy a school there, a church school, which will give us beds for 100 patients, for $50,000, and the property, which would give us sufficient hospital accommodations: this building could be fitted up at not too great an expense, and I think it is the most rational thing to do. That is one reason why we want the word "purchase" in there; that is one place at which we would like to purchase. I think it would be by far the most economical thing we can do. Key West is a very difficult place at which to build. We have no sewerage and no water supply, and many things about it make it a most difficult place at which to establish a suitable hospital. We will have quite a personnel there and one that will be far removed from another place. I am trying to get ready at least a temporary hospital of 100 beds. The CHAIRMAN. What is the next?

PENSACOLA, FLA.

Dr. BRAISTED. Pensacola, Fla., with no hospital and a rapidly enlarging personnel, that place will probably have a personnel ultimately of $5,000. This is under contract and nearly completed, 24

buildings, consisting of 5 pavilion wards, with toilets and wash rooms, nurses' quarters, hospital corps barracks, civilian employees' barracks, quarters for medical staff, operating building, administration building, mess hall, kitchen building, storehouse, garage, laundry building, and laundry equipment, disinfecting building, and disinfecting apparatus, and power plant to supply steam for operating building, laundry, sterilizing, and disinfecting apparatus, $150,000.

The CHAIRMAN. What will the capacity be?

Dr. BRAISTED. All of these temporary hospitals are built on one plan, of which I have a little book here. There is something which we have developed as a temporary hospital. You see all of these buildings follow about the same wording, and each one provides for a little temporary hospital.

The CHAIRMAN. What will be the capacity of this hospital?
Dr. BRAISTED. This will give us 200 beds.

Mr. GILLETT. Will you need 200 beds for 5,000 men?

Dr. BRAISTED. In war times we calculate on not less than 5 per cent of patients from the personnel; the Army counts on more, but we go at 5 per cent; I think the Army estimates 10 or 15 per cent.

Mr. GILLETT. You say in war times. Do you mean at the front? Dr. BRAISTED. No; I refer to the places we have here. You have here these large aggregations of men and consequently there is a great deal more of contagious diseases; you have more diseases everywhere in war times than in peace times. Our great work will not be the care of the wounded as much as it will be the care of these people we are gathering together, the general personnel which we must endeavor to keep well. We may be in one or two big engagements which will result in a great many wounded, and so on, but that is a small matter as compared to the general health and welfare of the whole personnel.

NEW ORLEANS, LA.

The next is New Orleans, with a personnel of from 5,000 to 8,000, 24 buildings, consisting of 5 pavilion wards, with toilets and wash rooms, nurses' quarters, hospital corps barracks, civilian employees' barracks, quarters for medical staff, operating building, administration building, mess hall, kitchen building, storehouse, garage. laundry building and laundry equipment, disinfecting building and disinfecting apparatus, and power plant to supply steam for operating building, laundry, sterilizers, and disinfecting apparatus. This is the same general plan that I have outlined before and will give 250 beds, and the estimated cost is $150,000.

GREAT LAKES STATION.

The next is the Great Lakes Station, Ill., with a personnel, perhaps, of 20,000, which will necessitate a hospital of at least 1,200 beds.

The CHAIRMAN. What have you now?

Dr. BRAISTED. We have now 185 beds in our permanent hospital: almost everything else is in tents, and we are carrying there about 800 patients. When those 20,000 are there we should have, I think,

2,000 beds, but I am providing for 1,200, which I think is a moderate number. This would require 49 buildings, consisting of 29 pavilion wards, hospital corps barracks, subsistence building, laundry building and laundry equipment, storehouse, garage, civilian employees' building, nurses' quarters, and heating plant, $450.000.

MARE ISLAND, CAL.

The next is Mare Island, Cal. That is simply an extension of the naval hospital there, 42 buildings, consisting of 20 pavilion wards, with toilets and wash rooms, 2 nurses' quarters, 2 hospital corps barracks, 2 civilian employees' barracks, 2 quarters for medical staff, operating building, administration building, 2 mess halls, 2 kitchens, 2 storehouses, garage, laundry building and laundry equipment, disinfecting building and apparatus, and heating plant, $175,000, which will give us a hospital capable of carrying about 1,000 patients; they have there to-day nearly 700 patients and they have had as high as 900 patients in the last two months.

The CHAIRMAN. What facilities have they there now?

Dr. BRAISTED. We have now one main hospital, which has a capacity of about 300 beds at its extremest limit; we are carrying these patients in tents and are now building these quarters for the winter— that is, quarters of this temporary character-which will expand the main hospital as they are expanding at Norfolk. Now, you asked about Alcatraz Island. This is by far and away a better scheme, because we have all of our main hospital there; we have all of our administration there, and everything, you know, is concentrated around Mare Island and will be for this next one, two, or three years, probably.

Mr. GILLETT. How is it you have so many sick at Mare Island? Where do they come from?

Dr. BRAISTED. They come from the large receiving station there, which carries thousands of men, and that is the largest source of supply of patients. We also have about 5,000 men camped there, which will be increased in number; we have all the ships that come there and the various people who are employed in the navy yard. It is a big personnel.

PUGET SOUND STATION.

The next is Puget Sound. We have a very fine permanent hospital there, which we are expanding by the addition of 10 buildings, consisting of 5 pavilion wards, 3 Hospital Corps barracks, subsistence building, and heating plant, at an estimated cost of $100,000.

JAMESTOWN, VA.

The next is Jamestown. Va., the new training camp, with a personnel of 10,000. We are providing a temporary 250-bed hospital of the same type that I have described, 26 buildings, consisting of 8 pavilion wards, Hospital Corps barracks, nurses' quarters, quarters for the medical staff, administration building, operating building, subsistence building, storehouse, laundry and laundry equipment, garage, mortuary, shops, civilian barracks, and heating plant, at an estimated cost of $275,000 and with a capacity of 280 patients. Be

sides that, we have in view, which will soon come along, Gulfport, with a personnel of 3,000 at least, and perhaps more, where we will have to provide about 100 beds.

CAPE MAY AND PELHAM MANOR.

Then we have such places as Cape May and Pelham Manor, where there will be 5,000 people. All of those places keep coming, you see, day by day, and it is hard for me to tell you exactly what will be necessary, but I see already in the distance enough to certainly take us over the $3,200,000 mark, and for which we are asking now. We will certainly spend all of that and probably have to spend, as time goes on, some more; just how much nobody knows. Of course, it is very important that we have all of this completed as soon as possible. The first thing that you want, gentlemen, in any of these camps, is some place to take care of the sick, and the most important thing that you have before you is to provide quarters for the care of the sick. The first complaints and the most bitter complaints you will hear will be those about the lack of provisions of that kind. As I told you in my first hearing, I think I have followed out my reputation in being modest in my demands. I have thought over very carefully what we ought to have. There has been no attempt to do any thing but furnish, as cheaply and as carefully as we could, all of these wants, which I know from my many years of experience-I have been 17 years in this work-we are going to need.

PATIENTS IN PRIVATE HOSPITALS.

The CHAIRMAN. Have you any patients in private hospitals?
Dr. BRAISTED. Yes, sir.

The CHAIRMAN. How many?

Dr. BRAISTED. I should say that we now have all together about 125 patients. Of course, they are scattered all over the country, and that is something that grows. For instance, last night I was called on the telephone; a yeoman broke his leg and was taken to the Sibley Hospital; that means that his care will be paid for, probably, from our fund for the care of patients in civil hospitals.

The CHAIRMAN. The case you speak of is an accident, and a sort of emergency case?

Dr. BRAISTED. Yes.

The CHAIRMAN. Are you sending patients to private hospitals from any of these places now?

Dr. BRAISTED. Yes; several hundred in cities where these facilities are available. At times there have been 100 or so in hospitals about New York. For instance, if any of our hospitals are full, and any of our retired officers-and by law we must look out for them-should require attention, we would no doubt send them to the Georgetown Hospital, where we have a contract at $1.50 a day, or something like that. I made those contracts so that we would have some place to send these people if necessary. We also need these private hospitals for women. We do not take women in the naval hospitals, and the enlisted women have a right to treatment; and if any of them are taken seriously ill we have to take care of them, and they would probably go to one of those places. If at any of these places our hospitals were full we would of necessity have to utilize these civilian

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