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Maj. GRANT. The cantonment work here is being done by very expensive civilian labor and, of course, we expect to do this by troops, almost entirely.

Mr. SHERLEY. Your estimate was really an estimate for material? Maj. GRANT. Mostly for material.

Mr. SHERLEY. Do you contemplate getting those materials from this side?

Maj. GRANT. Yes, sir.

Gen. BLACK. Until the forestry regiments can get to work. Then, we will get the wood over there. We can get some cement over there. The steel, corrugated iron, and all of that will come from this side. They also asked if we could send over some of the knocked-down buildings. I do not think we have made any contract.

Maj. GRANT. No, sir; we are just getting information.

Gen. BLACK. What we are trying to do here, which makes it necessarily a little vague, is not to interfere with Gen. Pershing's people over there. Col. Taylor is at the head, so you know it is pretty well managed. They send over the requisitions for what they want and we try to supply them.

Mr. SHERLEY. You have accounted for $30,000,000?

Gen. BLACK: Yes, sir.

Mr. SHERLEY. What is the other $5,000,000 for?

Gen. BLACK. The wharf, $4,000,000, and the base storehouse and shops, $1,000,000.

Mr. SHERLEY. That leaves $65,000,000 of the $100,000,000 unexpended?

Gen. BLACK. The rest is mighty easy. Sixty million dollars for railroad and rolling stock, and it will not carry, and a thousand miles of road at $5,000 a mile. That, of course, is rough. We do not know how much we will get.

Mr. SHERLEY. Had you not figured on the railroads before?
Gen. BLACK. Yes, sir; but we had not figured on so much.

Mr. SHERLEY. You mean that your old figures must now be increased by $60,000,000 for railroads.

Gen. BLACK. Yes, sir. We made no estimate at all for the railroad construction.

MONDAY, JULY 30, 1917.

QUARTERMASTER'S CORPS.

STATEMENT OF MAJ. GEN. HENRY G. SHARPE, QUARTERMASTER GENERAL, ACCOMPANIED BY COL. I. W. LITTELL, LIEUT. COL. H. M. LORD, MAJ. C. B. DRAKE, CAPT. C. P. DALY, CAPT. J. S. FAIR, CAPT. R. C. MARSHALL, LIEUT. J. Q. A. BRETT, QUARTERMASTER CORPS, AND E. J. LAYTON, SECRETARY TO QUARTERMASTER GENERAL.

PAY OF THE ARMY.

(See p. 327.)

OFFICERS OF THE LINE.

The CHAIRMAN. For "Pay of the Army. Officers of the line: For pay of officers," $27,380,503. General, how was this estimate reached?

Gen. SHARPE. We have a statement from The Adjutant General, confirmed by the General Staff, giving the strength of the Army. The Secretary of War directed that provision be made for 2,033,345 enlisted men, to be divided as follows:

National Army, 16 Infantry divisions, 320,000 men; 6 Army Corps, 97,800 men; line of communication troops for 32 divisions, 238,560 men, making a total of 656,360. Regular Army, 10 Infantry divisions, 200,000; 3 Army Corps, 48.800; line of communication troops, 74,550; miscellaneous troops, including oversea garrisons, 146,835, making a total of 470,185. National Guard, 16 Infantry divisions, 320,000; 6 Army Corps, 97,800, miscellaneous troops, 39,000, making a total of 456,800. Replacement units for all forces, 450,000, or a total of 2,033,345. The money required for this force for one year, with the necessary officers, is shown in the table which I submit, which is divided into Needed," "Appropriated," and To be provided."

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The CHAIRMAN. How much is there required for one year?

Gen. SHARPE. The total pay for one year is $1,156,167,828.28. There has already been appropriated $440,339,387.30, making the balance to be appropriated $715,828,440.98.

The CHAIRMAN. What is the present strength of all these forces? Gen. SHARPE. I do not know exactly, Mr. Chairman. For the Regular Army and the National Guard it is practically the figures we have given here. There have been none called yet for the National Army or for the replacement troops which also come under the National Army.

The CHAIRMAN. You have not yet a million men whom you are paying?

Gen. SHARPE. No, sir.

The CHAIRMAN. And you are figuring here on the pay of 2,033,000 men for a whole year?

Gen. SHARPE. Yes, sir.

The CHAIRMAN. What you have done is to include the amount of money necessary for a year's pay for this army of 2,033,000? Gen. SHARPE. Yes, sir.

The CHAIRMAN. And have requested the difference between those figures and the amounts now available under the appropriations heretofore made?

Gen. SHARPE. Yes, sir. This table shows that.
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The CHAIRMAN. Have you any information upon which you can express an opinion as to the number of men you will have on an average during this fiscal year?

Gen. SHARPE. I think it will be greater than the number we have in the estimates.

The CHAIRMAN. No; not greater than the estimates; you have more than 2,000,000.

Gen. SHARPE. Yes, sir. There are a great many troops which have not yet been called, technical troops, which are not included. The CHAIRMAN. How many?

Gen. SHARPE. We are going to provide for 45,000 for the engineers, technical troops; that one item alone, 11 more regiments.

The CHAIRMAN. What is the total number of technical troops? Gen. SHARPE. We do not know. We estimate that in our corps alone at the end of this year there will be 200.000 men, in the Medical Department about 220,000, 25,000 in the Ordnance Department, and 104,000 in the Signal Corps.

The CHAIRMAN. They are provided for?

Gen. SHARPE. I do not understand so.

The CHAIRMAN. Does not the aviation appropriation cover the pay of the Aviation Corps?

Gen. SHARPE. I do not understand that it covers the pay.

Capt. DALY. The regular men in the Aviation Corps are provided for in the Army bill and the Reserve Signal Corps is provided for in the Signal Corps appropriation.

Gen. SHARPE. If it does provide for the pay, it would not provide for the clothing and other subsistence.

The CHAIRMAN. You suggest dropping out the words "including staff corps of the National Guard." That is because their pay has

already been provided for. Will not that compel you to open a new account unless the appropriation is carried in the same wording? Gen. SHARPE. We did not recommend that that wording be stricken out. I do not know where that recommendation came from. The CHAIRMAN. Those words should remain in the bill?

Gen. SHARPE. Yes, sir.

Lieut. BRETT. Not the words "National Guard." It was the intention that everything except the Regular Army would be provided for under the officers of the line, because we had no way of knowing the number of men in the Staff Corps at this time, and so if the words "National Guard" are left off of pay of officers of the line the item will provide the pay of staff officers for every force except the Regular Army.

The CHAIRMAN. In order to take care of the staff of the National Guard those words were included in the other bill?

Lieut. BRETT. We provide for the Staff Corps of the Regular Army here under appropriate headings. We do not provide for the Staff Corps of the National Guard. We do not know how many officers we will have.

ADDITIONAL PAY TO OFFICERS FOR LENGTH OF SERVICE.

The CHAIRMAN. As to the item "For additional pay to officers for length of service," will any of that accrue this year?

Lieut. BRETT. A great many enlisted men of the line are being commissioned. Most of those men will come in with one fogy. That means an increase of 10 per cent in their pay. Every enlisted man who has had five years' service is entitled to one fogy, and if he has served enough to give him the second fogy he gets that.

The CHAIRMAN. Outside of the enlisted men who are commissioned there will be no increase?

Lieut. BRETT. Yes, sir; because we are putting up so many officers from the lower grades. By adding the fifth increment to the Army we have many more colonels, lieutenant colonels, majors, and captains. The CHAIRMAN. The increase is based upon the percentage of the grade in which they are serving?

Lieut. BRETT. Yes, sir. After this increase all the second lieuten-ants will probably become practically captains, and instead of getting 10 per cent on $1,700 they will get 20 per cent on $2,400.

The CHAIRMAN. There is no longevity for general officers?

Gen. SHARPE. No, sir. The full longevity does not accrue with the colonel or lieutenant colonel.

The CHAIRMAN. Do you think it will take $500,000 for this purpose?

Lieut. BRETT. Yes, sir. Inasmuch as all the promotions have not been carried up, we have no means of making a close calculation, but I think it is very conservative.

The CHAIRMAN. In these items for pay, will any of this additional money be expended before the end of this calendar year?

Gen. SHARPE. Personally, I think it will, Mr. Chairman. You have only appropriated

The CHAIRMAN (interposing). We appropriated on the basis of a million for eight months.

Gen. SHARPE. Yes, sir. We have expended and obligated up to July 31, $45,807,358.38.

The CHAIRMAN. For what?

Gen. SHARPE. For the pay of the Army. That leaves a balance of $391,061,000. We require over $1,000,000,000 for the whole year. We have only $391,000,000 left. We have one-fourth of the whole appropriation that we are asking for.

Lieut. BRETT. There is another big drain that we made no provision for in the first deficiency estimate, and that is the increased pay for foreign service.

The CHAIRMAN. Of course, we did provide for the increase of pay.
Gen. SHARPE. Yes, sir: for the increased number of men.
The CHAIRMAN. The $30 increased pay.

Gen. SHARPE. Yes, sir: I think we gave you the figures. Lieut. Brett is referring to the 20 per cent for the men serving abroad, and the 10 per cent for the officers, foreign service pay. There was no estimate submitted for that.

The CHAIRMAN. Have you included in this estimate a sum sufficient to cover the amount required for the foreign pay of officers and men?

Gen. SHARPE. It is estimated that one-half of the officers and enlisted men provided for in the estimates will be on foreign service for the entire year.

The CHAIRMAN. For what length of time?

Gen. SHARPE. Two million thirty-three thousand four hundred and forty-five for one-half year or one-half of those men for all the year. Those two amounts, if you would like to hear them, are officers, $10,206,055.07, and for the men, $80,065,805.20. There was appropriated in the annual appropriation bill $250,000 for officers and $800,000 for men; that is just for the men of the Regular Army serving abroad.

PAY OF ENLISTED MEN OF THE LINE AND STAFF.

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The CHAIRMAN. For enlisted men of the line," you are asking $476,449.236?

Gen. SHARPE. Yes, sir.

The CHAIRMAN. In the last deficiency bill

Gen. SHARPE. You gave us $39,390,000 and $226,882,560 under the urgent deficiency bill.

The CHAIRMAN. In the deficiency bill we made provision authorizing the payment of $100 a month for enlisted men in training for the Officers' Reserve Corps.

Gen. SHARPE. Yes, sir.

The CHAIRMAN. And in the Army bill an item was carried to cover civilian military training?

Gen. SHARPE. Yes, sir.

The CHAIRMAN. In which of these estimates is it included?

Gen. SHARPE. We have not estimated for that any more.

Capt. DALY. As a matter of fact, they have been paid out of the

pay of the Army.

The CHAIRMAN. Is there included in this estimate the estimate of the enlisted men of the Signal Corps, Aviation Section?

Lieut. BRETT. No, sir.

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